The Kinetophone: A Fact! A Reality!

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The Kinetophone: A Fact! A Reality!

Post by donnie » Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:25 pm

I just ordered this dvd. :) It looks very interesting.

Description: In 1913, the Thomas Edison Company made talking pictures using a sound-on-cylinder system called The Kinetophone. These pioneering sound movies were shown in theatres for about a year, and featured vaudeville acts, comedy sketches, dramatic scenes and musical performances. Only 8 of the 200 Kinetophone films made survive in both film and cylinder elements, and these have now been digitally restored and synchronized by the Library of Congress, and are presented here for the first time in 105 years.
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Re: The Kinetophone: A Fact! A Reality!

Post by Kitty » Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:31 pm

Oh WOW! That looks really interesting!
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Re: The Kinetophone: A Fact! A Reality!

Post by donnie » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:30 pm

The only one of these I've ever seen (and that was just a clip) was in the last episode of the Hollywood series. Viola Dana was reminiscing about her sister being in one and her voice sounding odd.

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Re: The Kinetophone: A Fact! A Reality!

Post by Kitty » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:33 pm

That stuff is fascinating. Hey, I just thought about those Edison dolls that talked from the turn of the century. I think they had little cylinders in them that played the sound. It's rare to hear a good sounding one, because they deteriorated so quickly. Their voices are very creepy to listen to due to sound quality.
You trying to tell me you didn't hear that shriek? That was something trying to get out of its premature grave, and I don't want to be here when it does. - Phantom of the Paradise (1974)

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Re: The Kinetophone: A Fact! A Reality!

Post by donnie » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:10 pm

Kitty wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:33 pm
That stuff is fascinating. Hey, I just thought about those Edison dolls that talked from the turn of the century. I think they had little cylinders in them that played the sound. It's rare to hear a good sounding one, because they deteriorated so quickly. Their voices are very creepy to listen to due to sound quality.
I didn't know there was such a thing! Are there any audio or video recordings of them?

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Re: The Kinetophone: A Fact! A Reality!

Post by Kitty » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:33 pm

Yes! There's a Wikipedia page on them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison% ... graph_Doll
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Re: The Kinetophone: A Fact! A Reality!

Post by donnie » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:11 pm

Thanks! Fascinating... There is also a good Smithsonian article linked at the bottom.

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Re: The Kinetophone: A Fact! A Reality!

Post by Kitty » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:37 pm

donnie wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:11 pm
Thanks! Fascinating... There is also a good Smithsonian article linked at the bottom.
Yeah, I looked at all of those. Interesting stuff!!
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Re: The Kinetophone: A Fact! A Reality!

Post by donnie » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:50 pm

It seems surprising that Edison would have thought a cylinder machine inside a toy like that would succeed. With the delicacy of those things, and considering you had a needle in the groove of a wax cylinder...it seems almost an impossibility that they would have worked reliably.

And I wonder why the women making the voice recordings used such a loud voice, almost as if they're shouting. Maybe they had to for it to register on the cylinder...

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Re: The Kinetophone: A Fact! A Reality!

Post by Kitty » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:21 pm

donnie wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:50 pm

And I wonder why the women making the voice recordings used such a loud voice, almost as if they're shouting. Maybe they had to for it to register on the cylinder...
I think you hit the nail on the head.
You trying to tell me you didn't hear that shriek? That was something trying to get out of its premature grave, and I don't want to be here when it does. - Phantom of the Paradise (1974)

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